Posts by Pete Zahut

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The real reason the Watchtower Magazine is studied

by RULES & REGULATIONS in

the watchtower study is not real bible study.

it is a study to introduce wtbts beliefs,doctrines, and practices.

just think for a moment!

Pete Zahut

"But Jehovah God has also provided his visible organization, his "faithful and discreet slave", made up of spirit-anointed ones, to help Christians in all nations to understand and apply properly the Bible in their lives. Unless we are in touch with this channel of communication that God is using, we will not progress along the road to life, no matter how much Bible reading we do." Watchtower 1981 Dec 1 p.27

Down through history, how did people manage before the Watchtower Corporation came along?

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How much paper has the WT used to print its publications?

by ILoveTTATT2 in

jw
friends

so... i am doing a crazy stat: how many pieces of paper has the wt ever published?.

i don't have the answer yet, but.... i do have the approximate answer for the awake!

and the watchtower magazines.... get ready... it's a whopping 1.1 trillion pages!.

Pete Zahut

What about the trillions of gallons of ink used and the solvent needed to clean the printing equipment?

(wasn't there a toxic waste dump situation where they at one time used to bury their manufacturing waste at one of the old watchtower properties? (Wallkill?)

What about the trillions of gallons of fuel used to transport the literature around the world and to have thousands of JWs hand deliver them to each door?

Don't get me started on the kilowatts of power used to produce them, the countless hours spent sitting around hashing over them during the Sunday Watchtower study and the thousands of acres of land fill that were needed to dispose of them afterward.

Not one thing they had to say in that literature, came true.

Isn't there something in the Bible about ruining those who are ruining the earth?

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Older JW: not happy

by Gorbatchov in

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friends

this week i visited my sick father in law.. then an old elder from my far away congregation came in for coffee.

did not see him in 15 years.. nice chat.

had a lot to say, is alone, his sick wife disabled and away from home.. he told me: "living alone is so hard.

Pete Zahut

The old folks have been marginalized and no one really cares whether they're happy or not, nor do they care what they have to say. Unless they have quaint anecdote from yesteryear, when trotted out on the podium, their life experiences and observations are generally dismissed by the new ones who have entered upon the scene.

If you're not in the "young single" or " young married with kids " demographic, you could drop off the face of the earth and it wouldn't phase anyone. What the governing body said and did in the past and all of the sacrifices older JW's made as a result of their admonition, matters not, to anyone who came later. If you are old and disappointed, it's your own fault for reading too much into the information you read in the Watchtower, for being overly zealous and rushing ahead of Jehovah's chariot.

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Watchtower and Awake in the cafeteria of my work place

by StephaneLaliberte in

someone at my workplace, i don't know who, is a jw and has been leaving magazines in the cafeteria.

any suggestion as to what i could do?

i thought of writing up a note stating: "to whoever is bringing these magazine: jw have broken up my family, please don't bring religion to work.

Pete Zahut

Print out the photos below (or similar ones) and leave them lying around. Be sure to circle the date these were printed.

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Anyone struggle to find meaning in life?

by Good JW in

just wondering if this is a common thing for you guys and girls?

when i left the jws it was hard to make a connection with people, much of the time i felt that whatever they wanted to talk about just didn't seem relevant/deep/meaningful.

i find myself filtering my mind to get to a level with others (small talk mostly).

Pete Zahut

I realized a long time ago that this business about life needing to have "meaning" or "purpose" , was something that was planted in my mind during my JW upbringing and it was an idea that wasn't particularly conducive to happiness.

JW's believe that the only way for life to have meaning is to serve Jehovah (or them) and for life to have purpose, it has to go on for all eternity.

Religion plays into human Narcissism by telling us we are important enough to live forever. We are the center of the universe and that the earth and planets are here for our biding even though history has borne out that that the exact opposite is true .

Whether we were meant to live for 80 years or we were meant to go on living for eternity, it still doesn't answer the question as to WHY God (if he exists) felt the need to create life, what was his "purpose" in doing so? The animals and plant life have purpose but they only live for a limited time, so why shouldn't we? I think this business of wanting to live forever might well be put down to basic human Narcissism and greed as is the idea that our lives are so important in the scheme of things, that we must be diligent about how we use our time. The reality is, whether we waste time or use it wisely, either way, it passes by and is gone.

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An Active JW Sister Modelling For Me

by pale.emperor in

since leaving the borg i jumped both feet first into classes i've always wanted to do but was never "allowed" to.

two of which are life drawing and photography.

i've been studying for almost two years now and have seen more nude men and women in our classes than i care to remember.. today in the photography studio i was working in with three others (two women, one man) we were told we had a new person modelling for us.

Pete Zahut

If Tony M. has trouble with Yoga pants, I wonder what he'd say about nude modeling.

Sunday Watchtower Study a few weeks from now:

Study Conductor: Question #2. How have some individuals been able to continue Pioneering despite financial difficulties? Lets call on Sister Goosebumps.

Sister Goosebumps: Like many Pioneers, I've had difficulties making ends meet lately and Jehovah has provide a new way for me overcome this difficulty through nude modeling. You might say I channel my inner Eve as I pose and one time I unexpectedly even found myself whistling a Kingdom Song during one particular session. Someone asked me what it was and I told him. The next day before class, I was able to provide a fine Witness for Jehovah again when he and a few of the other artists standing around, asked me to whistle a few more songs as I got undressed.

Study Conductor: Where did you say these classes....Err...mmm I mean moving on to paragraph 4

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An Active JW Sister Modelling For Me

by pale.emperor in

since leaving the borg i jumped both feet first into classes i've always wanted to do but was never "allowed" to.

two of which are life drawing and photography.

i've been studying for almost two years now and have seen more nude men and women in our classes than i care to remember.. today in the photography studio i was working in with three others (two women, one man) we were told we had a new person modelling for us.

Pete Zahut

Perhaps she's a lover of Naked Unvarnished Truths, of all kinds.

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I am getting disfellowshipped

by CitizenofEarth in

maybe some of you remember me, maybe not.

for general information i am now 19 years old, and living by myself.

for the past 1 year (more like 1.5 years) i have been quietly fading out of the hypocrisy of this organization, but since i still live in the town i grew up in it has been hard, and filled with different challenges.

Pete Zahut

Tomas Moro

Si adistes a ese comite, estás reconociendo poder de ellos sobre ti.
Y eres esclavo de ellos porque te presentas par.....

If you adhere to that committee, you are recognizing their power over you.

And you are a slave to them because you present yourself to receive their supposed authority.

If you care about your spirituality, they will help you.

And anyway, they're going to expel you, whatever you do. Going is only to be humiliated.

The best thing is not to introduce yourself and not explain anything else.

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I am getting disfellowshipped

by CitizenofEarth in

maybe some of you remember me, maybe not.

for general information i am now 19 years old, and living by myself.

for the past 1 year (more like 1.5 years) i have been quietly fading out of the hypocrisy of this organization, but since i still live in the town i grew up in it has been hard, and filled with different challenges.

Pete Zahut

According to Governing Body member Geoffery Jackson in his testimony to the Royal Australian Commission, if a person leaves on his or her own accord and becomes inactive, they have disassociated themselves and the congregation doesn't pursue the matter unless they try to come back.

This video covers the official stance on that matter, starting at the 1:00 mark at the beginning of the video.

This video covers the official stance on that matter starting at the 1:00 mark at the beginning of the video.

I wouldn't go to the hearing. Perhaps you can send the video to the elder who is talking to you and point out the part he needs to listen to and let him know that's why you won't be attending the meeting.

Later if they still pursue the matter with you, you could let them know that if there is any sort of announcement made about you or if they try to influence your family against associating with you, you'll be looking into what legal avenues are available for you to pursue.

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My father also molested my DAUGHTER!

by alamb in

needing advise.

i was on here years ago fighting for custody of my daughters.

the court gave us a joint arrangement.

Pete Zahut

Is your daughter ok....is she getting some sort of counseling ?